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WHY POLAND? Symposium: Facing the Demons of Polish-Jewish History

WHY POLAND? Symposium: Facing the Demons of Polish-Jewish History


The Australian Institute of Polish Affairs and The Australian Society of Polish Jews and Their Descendants invite you to the symposium on:

WHY POLAND?

Facing the Demons of
Polish-Jewish History

The Keynote Address:

“Lifting the Burden of the Past”
by Professor Martin Krygier

Martin Krygier is Gordon Samuels Professor of Law and Social Theory at the University of New South Wales.
In 1997 he delivered the ABC’s Boyer Lectures titled:
Between Fear and Hope: Hybrid Thoughts on Public Values.
His work spans a number of fields, including legal, political and social philosophy, communist and post-communist studies, and the history of ideas. He is the author of Civil Passions: Selected Writings, a collection of his essays.

Date: Sunday, 28 October 2012,
Time: 3pm
Where: Armagh, 226 Kooyong Rd, Toorak (Melways 59 A3)
Donation: $15

Also participating:

Bernard Brzegowski-Korbman- Moderator
Adam Warzel “Why do you hate me, brother?”
Krystyna Duszniak “Why was Poland different?”

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  1. Delia Bradshaw
    October 28, 2012 at 7:12 pm #

    Warmest commendation to both organisations – the Australian Institute of Polish Affairs and the Australian Society of Polish Jews and Their Descendants – for the courage, compassion and commitment to public education embodied in today’s symposium.

  2. admin
    October 29, 2012 at 1:44 am #

    Thank you Della for your kind words. Let’s hope that many patrons of today’s symposium share your opinion.

  3. Marek Swida
    October 29, 2012 at 9:13 am #

    I was present at the symposium and asked two questions addressed to both organisations AIPA and Associacion of Polish Jews and Their Desendants.
    Unfortunately only one question was answered (in very general way and way below my expectations), the second question I quote from the memory – “Why the description of murderers of Polish and Jewish citizens of Polanf and Jews at all, during the Second World War are called Nazis not Germans, Ukrainians Lituanians,e.c.t.. was not answered at all and my second attempts to get the answer was smartly swept asaid by the Chairman of Polish Jews Associacion! So far I did not come across the Naziland country in Europe nor a Nazi laguage which had to be used by those misterious Nazis. Profesor Krygier’s speach was full of those Nazis and the word Germans – description of the real murdrers he somehow forgoten to mention at all but he did not forget to use and a number of times the statement “Polish antysemitism” – what a double standard!
    He is not hesitating to call all Poles antysemites, but the real murderers are named in his speech by the totally general pseudonim – “Nazis”!
    Professor you should be ashamed, bein of my age (I presume)and having Polish-Jewish ancestry you should know better!
    Both organizations shall fight those strange “Nazi” phenomenon as soon, our kids both Polish and Jewish will not know who really was a perpertrator of inhuman crimes during the 2WW against Poles, Jews and other nations!
    I demand an answer to my question by both organisations and request that this answer (and my question) to be publicised on AIPA and APJ and TD website. Plese pass the question to the Chairman of an Associacion of Polish Jews and Their Desendats. Hope that the answer will reach me a.s.a.p.
    Please provide me the date of an answer by both organisations on my private E-mail and further – next time answer publically questions which were asked publically or do not call any phony Symposiums.
    Regards,
    Marek Swida

  4. Alexandra Dunwill
    October 30, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

    Marek,
    It is disappointing that our symposium did not meet with your expectations.
    We share your concerns regarding the expression “Polish concentration camps” and would like to assure you that AIPA has put significant effort to prevent this defamatory expression appearing in the media across the world.
    Regarding the use of term “Nazi” rather than “German”- when referring to concentration camps or to perpetrators of crimes against Poles and Jews, it is a matter of acceptable terminology that aims at avoiding generalizations and acknowledges existing sensitivities; insisting on using the term that has been rejected worldwide would simply be irresponsible and unwise.

    I also believe that accusing Professor Krygier of “double standard” and overusing the expression “Polish anti-Semitism” is erroneous as it disregards the purpose and context in which it was used. It was clear to me that Professor Krygier was using the term either presenting opinions that were rejecting this concept or referring to recent works of historians both in Poland and abroad, that deal with the issue of “Polish antisemitism”. Nowhere in his lecture was he personally supporting the notion of systemic anti-Semitism of Poles, Polish Government or Catholic Church.
    Finally, it seems to me that we share the noble cause of promoting the good image of Poles and Poland in Australia and it would make much more sense to work together towards this goal rather than attacking each other. Only this way we may succeed in the future.
    Alexandra Dunwill

    • Marek Swida
      October 30, 2012 at 10:29 pm #

      Dear Mrs Dunwill,

      Symposium did meet my expectations!
      But being hardened with personal involvement in a large number of cases against virulent anti-Polonism in Australian medias I have to admit that those expectations were very low, further I have not a slightest intention of “attacking each other” I would like only that the basic rules of a discussion – honesty and not any particular interest of some groups of influence shall be adhered to. Words “Polish antisemitism” were used without any qualifications, but words “Nazis” covered German murderers very well within a cloak of anonimity! This is a double standard and if this is not accordingly to you – what is?
      Regards,
      Marek Swida

  5. Martin Krygier
    October 30, 2012 at 5:00 pm #

    Mr Swida addressed a criticism to me, so I will briefly respond. The reason I and others speak of Nazis is that they were Nazis; not a bad reason. It was Nazi ideology that inspired them, directed them, and was used to justify what they did. Most of them were also Germans, and it would be madness to deny it. But I didn’t.

    There is another word we use in the same way: Communists. They also were Russians and Poles and Ukrainians and Germans and others. But one thing about them, of some significance, is that they were communists. Or does Mr Swida avoid that word too? So how does he choose to describe 70 years of the history of the Soviet Union, 40 of Poland, etc.? Perhaps there were no Communists there either.

    With Polish antisemitism, things are different. It is an equal-opportunity employer. You didn’t need to belong to a political party to manifest it; many Poles of many, though not all, persuasions did and many still do. However, as for “not hesitating to call all Poles antysemites [sic]”, if I hadn’t heard Mr Swida’s strange questions I would conclude he had been at another meeting. My first point, and half of my talk was devoted to rejecting that claim.

    • Marek Swida
      October 30, 2012 at 11:15 pm #

      Professor Krygier,

      Indeed you did not call all Poles antisemites (no need to sic it, you understand what I was saying very well), what you did in your referate – you used the words “Polish antysemitism” on number of occasions without any qualification (disregarding if those words were a cytation or your own), but in the contrary than talking about Germans you used nice masking description “Nazis”!
      Can you explain to me – as so far every man and his dog is attacking my humble person only due to the fact that I did take part in discussion and dared to have slightest different opinion of the subject than the organisers of a symposium – why using the word “Nazis” and why you did not explained that phenomenon to me in public at the symposium? Are German murderers closer to Jewish people than Poles and that is why you do not like to call spade a spade? Yes, there were other “Nazis” than Germans and why not call them by their nationality? In the contrary you called Poles “Polish antisemites”? I always will call German murderers Germans not “Nazis”! And one more thing, Party and belonging to it has nothing to do with murders Germans committed during 2WW all of them believed that they are harrenfolk and others are “podludzie”, like Poles, Jews, Gipsies e.c.t.
      Number of people came to me after the meeting saying yes we know that Germans did it not “Nazis” – why you can not admit the same publically, especially that you know, I mean personally know the truth?
      Regards,
      Marek Swida

  6. Wojciech Sadurski
    October 30, 2012 at 6:41 pm #

    I have read Krygier’s paper though I was not at the meeting. Actually “calling all Poles the antisemites” is the opposite of his view expressed in the paper, and one of the main targets of his passionate critique.
    W. Sadurski

    • Marek Swida
      October 30, 2012 at 10:09 pm #

      Mr Sadurski,

      Please refrain from commenting text you are unable or unwilling to understand.
      By the way commenting anything without being present at the meeting is below the par.
      Regards,
      Marek Swida

  7. Olek
    November 1, 2012 at 10:42 pm #

    I found the session very informative and the subject most engaging.
    I think that presentations were very professional as was the moderation.
    In all, a very positive experience and I look forward to attending some
    other future events.

  8. Scott J.
    November 1, 2012 at 10:57 pm #

    Dear AIPA,

    The Sunday afternoon symposium was the first event organised by AIPA that I have attended. I was impressed by the sincerity and openness with which very difficult topics were tackled. I wish yo congratulate the organisers for their courage. They certainly certainly faced the demons. There should be more initiatives like this to let us move on.
    Scott J.

  9. Eva
    November 1, 2012 at 11:29 pm #

    I and my friend found the Symposium fascinating… We would love to be informed of future functions.
    Eva

  10. Magda
    November 2, 2012 at 10:02 am #

    I attended Sunday symposium and was impressed by the quality of papers presented and the sensitivity with which they presented difficult issues – issues which to this day remain highly emotive and generate controversy. I would like to congratulate AIPA and ASPJ on this initiative. I hope there will be further opportunities for joint discussions as this is the only way to achieve a better understanding and to deal with the demons of the past.

  11. Hybrid
    November 4, 2012 at 3:50 pm #

    As someone who has one Polish parent and one Jewish parent, I welcomed the symposium. The situation that exists has been particularly personally painful to me. I am familiar with the pain that is felt by Poles when confronted with the view that all Poles are anti-Semitic. I also know that how very painful it ts Jews to be confronted with denials from Poles of past and present anti-Semitic actions by some Polish people. I do not want history to be rewritten, but I do wish for a recognition by Polish people of the complicity and the actions of some Poles in the annihilation of their Jewish compatriots. Similarly I believe that it is important for everyone, including Jewish people to understand that the situation faced by Poland when it was invaded was difficult and complex and that not every Pole is personally responsible or anti-Semitic. I wish for a mutual understanding and a respect for each other’s suffering. Acknowledging the suffering of both sides, acknowledging historical events, accepting the entire truth as it continues to emerge is part of the way to reconciliation between the two groups. Perhaps in this generation we can make some headway to heal past wounds and perhaps in some small way prevent such rifts between two groups from happening again. This symposium was a courageous step in the right direction. A difficult topic was discussed with candor and the content was listed to with attention by the audience. The work should continue. Thank you to the organizers, the speakers and the audience who participated.

  12. Monica
    November 5, 2012 at 12:09 am #

    Thank you AIPA and ASPJ for organising this Symposium and I commend both associations for the professionalism, sensitivity and courage with which they addressed “the demons of the past”. The papers presented were factual, as well as highly informative. The delicate and complex nature of the subject matter was handled unbiasedly and with care. Ultimately, the experience left me feeling quite uplifted, as I hope it did for the other participants.

  13. Hybrid
    November 5, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

    Thank you admin for your reply. My contention is that personal pain drives the rift that exists. This was clearly evident to me in some of the discussion during question time and on this forum. The symposium has contributed to beginning an enormous task and has lit one candle in the darkness that exists in the darkness that surrounds this topic. People that are part of each of the communities were present during the symposium and we can hope that their positive experiences during the symposium will enhance your good work, and help it to continue. We cannot mandate or expect others to do the work that you have begun during this symposium, but we can wish and desire that the example that was set and modeled will eventually be fully understood and appreciated by everyone in both communities and maybe worldwide.

  14. victor majzner
    November 5, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

    I found the symposium very stimulating. Hopefully it has set a standard for a continuing dialogue between Jews of Polish origin and Poles.
    While there are many other issues or as the chairperson put it ‘elephants in the room’ eg: the role of the Catholic Church in Poland during the Shoa, post Shoa anti-Semitism in Poland, benefits of ‘cultural Jewish tourism’ etc that need to be discussed before a more relaxed relationship can be forged between Jews from Poland and Poles, I hope that honesty and mutual respect will prevail. However, I have a slight misgiving about a sense of historical revisionism that was hinted at during the symposium, namely the eqating of the Shoa with the deaths perpetrated by the communist regime in Russia = a suggested double holocaust. This I find intellectually dishonest, historically inacurate and morally reprehensible. It’s what Lithuania is attempting in relation to its own murderous complicity during the Shoa. There has to be a clear distinction made between the effect of the German occupation of Poland and its imposition on the population and the Communist regime’s affect on the Polish population – especuially in relation to the Jews and their experiences of both.

    • Stas Hempel
      November 6, 2012 at 12:36 am #

      However gratified I was by Mr Majzner’s praise for the Seminar, I was startled by the misgivings he expressed in the second part of his comment, and his strong statement using the phrase “intellectually dishonest, historically inaccurate and morally reprehensible”. This strength of expression belied what started as only a “slight” misgiving about historical revisionism that was only “hinted”.
      The papers presented at the seminar will soon be published on this web-site. May I suggest that Mr Majzner’s read these papers and return to comment again, if only to amplify for me exactly what he is referring to. He may be right, but I, for one, did not detect anything of the “double genocide” thesis blighting some Lithuanian historiography of the Holocaust.

    • Marek Swida
      November 6, 2012 at 8:35 pm #

      Mr. Majzner,

      We have at least the honest word “German” used by, I presume a person having a first hand experiences of Germany’s occupation of Poland, an Lithuanians are called by name and not under the “smart” description “Nazis”!
      What some people do not understand is a grade of difficulty of helping Jewish Poles under Germany’s occupation of Poland, you can not simply hide away 3.4 million Jewish Poles between 30 million Poles. Still around 80,000 Polish Jews(accordingly to a virulently anti-Polish book by Mr. Cooper(?)- “Under shadow of Polish eagle”) and around 120,000 in accordance to Polish sources, survived the occupation.
      If we can agree that around 20 Polish people were involved in helping one Polish Jew to survive (assumption made by Jewish authors) this makes 80,000X20 = 1.6 mln Poles involved indirectly or directly and facing death at every second of their involvement. Figures do not lie! Further, almost every of those people were given a baptising certificate by a Polish priest of Catholic Church as a first and very important document of “not being a Jew”, I hope that this is a role of Catholic Church you would like to underline to those who do not understand the reality of Germany’s occupation days as you do?
      Communist regime (of both Russia and after the occupation Poland) effect on Polish population was equal to Poles as Germany’s effect.
      Three and half million etnic Poles were murdered by both participants during 2WW and the split is almost 50-50%, we Poles did as well have our Holocaust and after 2WW Poland lost 30% of it’s territory and a census of 1947 shown 25 mln citizens of 35 mln before the war!
      Please talk to Mr Krygier and try to perswade him in stopping using world “Nazis” instead of Germans.
      Regards,
      Marek Swida

      • Martin Krygier
        November 7, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

        My interest in engaging with Mr Swida is fast coming to a close, but for the record, the following:

        There is nothing ‘smart’ about calling Nazis Nazis, simply accurate.

        But of course it’s not the whole story. Perhaps I responded too swiftly to Mr Swida’s initial diatribe against my speaking of Nazis in relation to the Holocaust, since I considered ridiculous his attempt to write them – in favour of the amorphous national category of Germans – out of special responsibility for the Holocaust. Without Hitler and the Nazis, specifically them, there is no reason to believe the Holocaust would have occurred. That, apart from his deafness to what I actually said about Poles, is the only point I addressed. If his letter had been better directed and less abusive, I might have given it a more ample and complex response.

        However, and of course, I would never deny that among nations, Germany bears the overwhelming responsibility for the War and the Shoah. Nor did I, ever, including at the symposium. Contrary to Mr Swida’s slur, the text I read at the meeting is littered with Germans. I quote Connelly on ‘the extraordinary violence of the German attack on Poland,’ Snyder that ‘the Germans were not shamed by publicity [of gas chambers]’, I write that ‘The bulk of Jews murdered in the Shoah were the deliberate victims of Nazi extermination policies, planned by Germans and implemented by them, with the help of a fair number of guards and others from neighbouring countries, notably Ukraine and Lithuania’ and I also say that ‘Germans had just destroyed Poland.’

        The sins of Germans, ordinary and others by their millions, of bystanders, collaborators, opportunistic and vengeful murderers should indeed never be forgotten or elided, but to talk of the Holocaust without putting its Nazi inspiration, planning, direction and implementation front and centre is nonsensical, both in terms of explanation and evaluation of the tragedies that occurred under the leadership of, let’s be quite explicit, Nazis.

        • Marek Swida
          November 8, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

          Mr. Krygier,

          I was of the same opinion about our polemic(fast coming to a close)as it leads us nowhere, but can not help myself asking you one more question.
          If the word “Nazi” is so important to you in explaining the anihilation of Jews during the 2WW, why this word made an unusual career recently (say around last ten-fifteen years). Please look to any papers after the war and you would not be abble to see this nick name “Nazis” the German murderers were called Germans, Lithuanian murderers were called Lithuanians, Ukrainian murderers were callred Ukrainians!
          In a contrary it is quite painful that you did not hesitate to commonly use the phrase “Polish anti-Semitism” to describe a small section of my nation, knowing very well that anti-Semitism is not new,is as a old as Jewish diaspora and it is not only a view priscribed to a small section of Poles!
          If you are such a strong beliver of political correctness why dont you use a description “global anti-Semitism” which is in paralell to describe Germans (and others, but definitely not Poles)as “Nazis”?
          In my personal crusade against another smart description “Polish Concentration Camps” often the phony answers of my Jewish antagonists was – I quote “Polish Concentration Camps were called Polish as they were on Polish soil – this is only a geograpgical description”.
          My answer to such blantant phony lie was and allways will be – lets call those concentration camps “Jewish Concentration Camps” as most prisoners were Jews, the reasoning in naming in such way those camps has the same weighting as calling them “Polish Concentration Camps”, but Mr. Krygier as you know it will be offensive to Jews, same as it is offensive to Poles to call those camps “Polish Concentration Camps”!
          I hope that you understand my reservation to both (recently) common descriptions “Polish Concentration Camps” and “Nazis” as both are seems to be designed to relieve Germans from the burden of their crimes and smartly, against all historical facts transfer that burden to Poles.
          Regards,
          Marek Swida

          • Piotr Lada
            November 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm #

            Dear Marek,
            First of all, thank you for coming to the Seminar.

            I’m sorry I didn’t have a chance to speak to you in Armagh after the event, at least to introduce you to the background of the AIPA’s work promoting Poland and Polish culture in Australia. I was busy in stopping another interesting speaker from leaving the building. He was later interviewed by ABC journalist for the program about the Seminar.

            I noted your desperation in what you described as ‘your crusade’. But I must say that you are not alone in this battle. We all have been angered and deeply traumatised by the term “Polish Concentration Camps” and similar descriptions, and many of us, including Prof. Martin Krygier, have been active in contacting the media with protests against such slander.

            Prof. Martin Krygier doesn’t write letters to the Press Council (which is really a “toothless tiger”) as you do; he simply writes and publishes books and essays on Poland, describing it as fully democratic country, strong member of the EU, with modern and open society.

            I’ve read carefully Martin Krygier’s speech. It would be good, if you do so as well. Probably administrator of this forum can send it to you, if you ask for it. Alternatively I can sand it to you (my email address is ladap@netspace.net.au)

            It’s true Martin Krygier used word ‘Nazi’ quite often, but he also made it crystal clear that there were Germans who were the main perpetrators of the atrocities, I quote:

            “The bulk of Jews murdered in the Shoah were the deliberate victims of Nazi extermination policies, planned by Germans and implemented by them, with the help of a fair number of guards and others from neighbouring countries, notably Ukraine and Lithuania.”

            O.K. You might say that the word ‘Nazis’ in his speech had double meaning. In the quoted sentence ‘Nazis’ stay for “Hitler and his party officials”, while another meaning of ‘Nazis’ is also used when describing the collective of criminals involved in the war on the German side, as i.e. in such sentence, I quote:

            “But though both Poles and Jews were victims of the Nazis, their situation was asymmetrical in two key ways.”

            I agree, it would be better, if the term ‘Nazi’ was commonly used to describe the Hitler’s party members, and the other groups named as ‘Nazi supporters, Nazi followers’ etc., but I’m afraid that is not going to happen, as we can’t control how the world population wants to use this term.

            I believe that LIFTING THE BURDEN OF THE PAST can’t be achieved by just controlling semantics of few words.

            Prof. Krygier was right when he said that recent developments in Poland, especially proliferation of historically novel discussions on the Polish-Jewish issues suggests a growth of maturity in Poland on this subject.

            Then he ended his speech with conclusion:

            “If we here can emulate such changes, and encourage the consideration and reconsideration of which I spoke at the beginning, then whatever we come to learn and need to face about our past, we will at least have acted well in the present. And that might lighten our burden a little.”

            I’d like to point to the words : lighten OUR burden…

            As you could have probably already noticed not only Professor Krygier, but also people associated with Australian Society of Polish Jews and Their Descendants help us, Poles, in lifting this burden very much. In few days they are going to celebrate memory of a great Pole, Henryk Slawik, who, as the leaflet distributed by this organisation says, saved several thousand Jews between 1940 and 1944. Award named in his memory will be presented to two brave Polish ladies who have been instrumental in building bridges between Polish and Jewish communities in recent times. You are welcome to be there. Details on the website of the Society and on http://www.melbourne.pl

            Maybe in that atmosphere we could discuss the issues in more positive mood?

            Regards
            Piotr Lada

    • victor majzner
      November 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm #

      Following a brief discussion with Mr Stas Hempel for which I’m very grateful, I feel the need by way of some clarification of my intent, to add the following to my previous contribution.
      The seminar was an important beginning of a discourse (in Australia) trying to unravel the complexity of Polish – Jewish relations. It provided a contemporary historical overview through excellent presentations.
      My initial response expressed my personal fear of historical revisionism in relation to this issue. I hope that our dialogue will continue and all other ‘elephants in the room’ will be addressed.
      Notwithstanding the fact that Poles comprise the majority of ‘Righteous amongst nations’ at Yad Vashem, nor the fact that thousands of Poles risked their lives by saving Jews during the Shoah, or the fact that the current generation of Poles is genuinely interested in the Jewish history of Poland and is actively helping to restore Jewish historical and archeological sites in Poland, etc, etc, it’s important (in my view) to also confront one of the main emotional barriers deeply embedded in this discourse – personal histories of Jews of Polish origin. ‘Lived’ or ‘experienced’ history is different to ‘academic’ history in the sense that by its very nature it is contextually personal, often emotionally raw, based on experiences deeply scarred in ones heart and memory. There are enough living Jewish survivors of the Shoah as well as many post Shoah Jews of Polish origin living in Australia to whom Polish – Jewish relations are not an ‘academic excercise’ but a real and always present reality. The anti-Semitism experienced by these Jews in Poland before and after the Shoah is one of the main contributing reasons for them leaving Poland. Until we recognize, acknowledge, understand and appreciate this ‘raw history’ that is so deeply felt in Jewish attitudes towards Poles and Poland we may not be able to meaninfully progress the dialogue between Poles and Jews of Polish origin.

  15. Antoni
    November 15, 2012 at 11:04 am #

    Popieram mądre i logiczne wypowiedzi Pana Marka Świdy!!!
    ***
    Adam Rotfeld: “Niemcy zadbali o to, by przymiotnik „niemiecki” zniknął ze sformułowań związanych z II wojną”
    ***
    Kto jest władny obalić tezę o ciągłości Państwa niemieckiego i odpowiedzialności państwowej Niemiec za II Wojnę Światową i budowę fabryk śmierci.

    Kto układał się z Niemcami w czasie gdy OBOZY NIEMIECKIE już funkcjonowały.
    W 1933 roku Niemcy stanowiły podmiot prawa międzynarodowego.
    Obywatele Niemiec w drodze demokratycznych wyborów powierzyli rządy Hitlerowi, (tak, tym dzisiaj zwanym “nazistom”)przy współudziale elit politycznych i szerokiemu poparciu społecznemu.

    Cóż za braki w pamięci!

    PS Sorry, but…”Jestem Polakiem i mam POLSKIE obowiązki” i o POLSKICH sprawach piszę tylko po POLSKU! Zakładam, że wszyscy wpisujący się tutaj znają ten język doskonale!

    Antoni

  16. George Kruszewski
    February 23, 2015 at 6:34 pm #

    My late father was No. 4798 KL Auschwitz and survived 4 years in there and KL Buchenwald. He taught us never to hate Jews, Germans or think racist or ethnic stereotypes. He saved Jews at night by swapping shirts & numbers of dead Poles, until arm tattoos put a stop to such innovation. Its time Victor Majzner stopped thinking of Poles as nasty Nazi-collaborators. Anti-Semitism is endemic in Europe within various racist groups. Why do the US Holocaust Museums refuse to have German, Polish and Japanese webpages? They get paid megabucks by Germany and US Government to project a sanitized PR history. US newspapers still write Polish death camps when they refer to Auschwitz etc. Why? Because they have been brainwashed over 60 years, when Poland was an evil communist State and US Jewish media branded Poles as Nazi-collaborators.
    Germany was and is a staunch ally of USA, and positive spin PR was paramount.
    More Jews were betrayed by their fellow Jews in Polish towns than by Poles.
    SS pistols aimed at Jewish babies ensured rapid babbling of Jewish mothers.
    Jews either deny or are ashamed of that tragic history and prefer to blame Poles than admit Jews betrayed their Jewish neighbors. Isn’t it time to stop the blame game in Australia? Let’s remember Jan Karski and Irena Sendler.
    I’m very interested in seeking and promoting Jewish-Polish reconciliation.
    George Kruszewski

  17. Daniel Samotus Zbytek
    November 5, 2015 at 5:03 pm #

    The problem with antisemitism in Poland is that Polish antisemitic perpetrators shade themselves behind these Poles who behave like humans helping Jews during the War and nor communist regime nor democratic one never exposed them to the public naming their crimes but in contrary the perpetrators have slide into postwar society without any objection. It is known that Polish Police called “Granatowa” (blue) served Germans effectively as Germans very often were unable to differentiate Jew and Pole. They controlled country and small cities governing freely – it is counted that they killed abt. 300 000 Jews just at their own will. Have you heard that any of them has been prosecuted? No, nobody – communist recruited many of them in their security forces, that have been willing cooperators. A lot is said about Jewish police in ghettos – but they have Polish Officers who recruited Jews between their prewar informants.And free will informants, so called “szmalcowniks” – there much bigger number of them “the Rightness”. Known case of Ulm family, who cover Jews in their home and have been killed by Germans – but their Polish informant was not disturbed, never.What about NSZ, feted today as anticommunist martyrs – but they co-operate with Nazis and at the end of the war Germans helped them to migrate, with weaponry, to the West, in September, 1944 when Warsaw upraising took place – they miss the city on the outskirts seeing fighting.Poles must end the story of clean hands and expose these who do not deserve to be hidden, otherwise their crimes are shared by all.

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